BBC Radio 4 – In Our Time, Civility: talking with those who disagree with you

On the value of keeping conversations going with opponents, from the Reformation onwards

Melvyn Bragg and guests discuss the idea that Civility, in one of its meanings, is among the most valuable social virtues: the skill to discuss topics that really matter to you, with someone who disagrees and yet somehow still get along. In another of its meanings, when Civility describes the limits of behaviour that is acceptable, the idea can reflect society at its worst: when only those deemed ‘civil enough’ are allowed their rights, their equality and even their humanity. Between these extremes, Civility is a slippery idea that has fascinated philosophers especially since the Reformation, when competing ideas on how to gain salvation seemed to make it impossible to disagree and remain civil.

With

Teresa Bejan
Professor of Political Theory at Oriel College, University of Oxford

Phil Withington
Professor of History at the University of Sheffield

And

John Gallagher
Associate Professor of Early Modern History at the University of Leeds

Producer: Simon Tillotson

Reading list:

Teresa M. Bejan, Mere Civility: Disagreement and the Limits of Toleration (Harvard University Press, 2017)

Anna Bryson, From Courtesy to Civility: Changing Codes of Conduct in Early Modern England (Oxford University Press, 1998)

Peter Burke, The Fortunes of the Courtier: The European Reception of Castiglione’s Cortegiano (Polity Press, 1995)

Peter Burke, Brian Harrison and Paul Slack (eds.), Civil Histories: Essays Presented to Sir Keith Thomas (Oxford University Press, 2000)

Keith J. Bybee, How Civility Works (Stanford University Press, 2016)

Nandini Das, João Vicente Melo, Haig Z. Smith and Lauren Working, Keywords of Identity, Race, and Human Mobility in Early Modern England (Amsterdam University Press, 2021)

Jurgen Habermas, The Structural Transformation of the Public Sphere (Polity, 1992)

Jennifer Richards, Rhetoric and Courtliness in Early Modern Literature (Cambridge University Press, 2003)

Austin Sarat (ed.), Civility, Legality, and Justice in America (Cambridge University Press, 2014)

Keith Thomas, In Pursuit of Civility: Manners and Civilization in Early Modern England (Yale University Press, 2018)

Phil Withington, Society in Early Modern England: The Vernacular Origins of Some Powerful Ideas (Polity, 2010)

Lauren Working, The Making of an Imperial Polity: Civility and America in the Jacobean Metropolis (Cambridge University Press, 2020)

In Our Time is a BBC Studios Audio Production

Spanning history, religion, culture, science and philosophy, In Our Time from BBC Radio 4 is essential listening for the intellectually curious. In each episode, host Melvyn Bragg and expert guests explore the characters, events and discoveries that have shaped our world.

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When Erik Satie invented a new kind of music: Gnossienne 1

Erik Satie wrote seven Gnossiennes. The first is in F minor, and Satie probably composed it in 1890. It was published with two other Gnossiennes in a Paris magazine in 1893. Like his three Gymnopedies of 1888, Satie seems to have created a new genre of piano piece with a title alluding to antiquity. According to the 1865 Larousse dictionary, a Gnossienne was a ritual labyrinth dance created by Theseus when he defeated the Minotaur. But Satie’s involvement in gnostic religious groups at the same time probably also influenced his use of the mysterious title.

All Satie’s Gnossiennes are composed without barlines, and they all have a gently rocking accompaniment in the left hand, with an ‘exotic’ melody floating above it in the right hand. All the Gnossiennes use modes to create intriguing and mysterious melodic lines. The extraordinary simplicity of the musical texture and syntax belies the prodigious originality of the resulting music. Written before Brahms had composed his late intermezzi, these are fabulously experimental pieces in which the form consists of haunting melodic fragments which circle around without any specific direction or goal. In their circularity and stasis they seem to lay down a challenge to German 19th century dominance: music does not have to be developmental; neither does it have to be goal-directed or hierarchical. It can simply float along and be an evocative mystery. Needless to say, Satie’s music had a huge influence on leading composers of the twentieth century including Debussy, Ravel, Stravinsky, Poulenc and, later on, the American pioneer John Cage.

Erik Satie: Gnossienne 1 Pianist: Matthew King.

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Guess I’ll have to keep an eye out for walnuts under the car from now on, haha. #wildlife #animals

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Walrus gets floating couch so that he’ll sinking boats 🚤 #shorts #walrus

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This camera can SEE sound!

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Why Are These Skyscrapers Shaped Like That?

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Reuben | The TONNETZ – the 300-year-old map of musical harmony

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What actually is a Piccadilly?

The question I’ve never heard anyone ask, but I decided to answer anyway… what is a Piccadilly? Subscribe for more.

There’s a London Underground line, a street, a major landmark, major train station, and in turn multiple shops and businesses carrying the name. It’s time to dive into what it actually means.

My channel brings you short videos on weird history, odd facts, forgotten places, and the infrastructure that shaped them. There’ll be new videos every week or two. Subscribe for more!

Video time stamps:
00:00 – The Question No-One Asks
00:44 – National Portrait Gallery
01:28 – Robert Baker
02:29 – Manchester Piccadilly
03:05 – Piccadilly line and Circus
03:56 – The Final Addition
04:07 – Why do we love the word Piccadilly?
04:25 – Outro

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Practice, Practice, and Practice!

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